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Karren Brady - a woman in a man's world

Karren Brady, nurturing female talent

INTERVIEW BY ANNIE BURNS

“When a woman walks into an interview what do the men see? They see problems. I see potential,” says Karren Brady, the woman who made it to the top of testosterone fuelled premier league football as Managing Director of Birmingham City Football Club.

“And that means they’re missing out on some of the best talent around. When I see a woman I don’t see boundaries. I see potential and I want to know how I can help them realise that potential, find ways to make it happen.”

Karren’s unblinkered vision means she’s put women in charge at the Blues – women executives sign the players, do the hiring and firing, grapple with the press, and cut multi million retail and ticketing deals. They’ve made it in the macho world.

The 75%: Karren Brady's A-Team

Job title

Joanne Allsopp

HR director

Wendy Monks

Head of retail and ticketing (replaced Debbie Silver), previously Head of ticketing

Carol Deakin

Head of conference and banqueting

Alexa Stockham

Head of marketing and communications

Rachel Biddles

Deputy ticket office/systems manager

Julia Shelton

Football secretary

Debbie Silver

Head of retail and ticketing (Silver has since left the club)


From left to right: Joanne Allsopp, Wendy Monks, Carol Deakin, Karren Brady, Alexa Stockham, Rachel Biddles, Julia Shelton

“Often men just see the problems when a woman walks in for a job – is she going to get pregnant, will she want school holidays off, what happens when the kids are sick? It’s all negative.” She explains further. “If a woman has the right skills for a job I find a way to make it work. I want to find ways to nurture women’s talent and provide a working environment that brings out the best of that talent– often that talent is missed or simply rejected at interview stage, assuming they can get that far.”

At the age of 23 Karren persuaded David Sullivan, owner of Britain’s biggest licensed sex shop group and a property portfolio (his personal worth was calculated to be £500 million according to the Sunday Times Rich List 2008) to buy and let her run the Midlands team, then languishing in the doldrums. She drove northwards on the M6 knowing she’d need “balls of steel” to survive let alone thrive in the macho world of soccer.


“Karren’s unblinkered vision means she’s put women in charge at the Blues – women executives sign the players, do the hiring and firing, grapple with the press, and cut multi million retail and ticketing deals. They’ve made it in the macho world.


Karren put her philosophy of promoting women with talent into practice when she arrived at St. Andrew’s Stadium and took the ailing club into the top league, with a healthy bank balance and £50 million turnover. She transformed the club with women calling the shots – seventy-five percent of her senior management team are women.

“Women are different and they bring something different to the table than men – their qualities are distinct and valuable in making a business successful.” She explains further. “Women are not political animals in the same way as men. They don’t play politics at work so you don’t have to watch your back all the time. Women are quite open and collaborative, much more so than men.

“They are very good at being team players. Women are natural nurturers of people – I’m a nurturer. I love bringing on talent, giving people the chance to realise their potential and creating the conditions that make that possible.”


She transformed the club with women calling the shots – seventy-five percent of her senior management team are women…Women are different and they bring something different to the table than men – their qualities are distinct and valuable in making a business successful.”


Challenging the view that she is as tough as they come, she offers an alternative view of herself. “People say I must be a real toughie to have been so successful in a male world when I was so young – but actually at heart I’m a real softie. I’m always being chided by colleagues who tell me to get tough,” she laughs.

And Karren, fifteen years later is now relying on the qualities women bring to management to help steady and steer the club through traumatic times. Relegation last season from the Premier League, combined with the credit crunch, plunged the Blues into crisis and the effect is already being counted at the turnstile with falling tickets sales.

“But we are one of the only football clubs to be without any debt, says Karren.” And I relish turnarounds; it’s what I’m good at. I’m confident we’ll be back in the premier league. But yes we’ll all need to be at the top of our game.


“I didn’t see boundaries. I wanted to harness that passion and promise and give their talents the room to grow and flourish.”


Julia Shelton, integrity shining through

Over the years Karren built a strong and energetic team of senior women executives, spotting potential, raw passion and integrity. “I didn’t see boundaries. I wanted to harness that passion and promise and give their talents the room to grow and flourish”, she says.

In Julia Shelton she saw integrity and due diligence shining through. Julia is now Football Secretary, one of the most senior and powerful executives at the Blues, in charge of signing players, overseeing fixtures, negotiations with UEFA, and all rules and regulations.

“She’s in a league of her own and I could see that. She has due diligence and dedication written all over her. Her brain is hard wired with integrity and loyalty,” says Karen.

As the head of retail she installed “Rottweiler” Debbie Silver, a women who “just gets on with it and is a real doer. “I need someone like that to compliment my nurturing nature,” smiles Karren. Silver has recently left the club.

“The engine room of the business is ticketing and getting people through the turnstile,” says Karren. To run that important function she has Rachel Biddles, a woman with a “superb ability to understand systems and the need to make them run well which she does with great calm.” Women also run the conference centre, as well as the press and marketing department, the biggest in the club.


“It’s the culture of long office hours and a clock watching mentality that makes it difficult for women. It’s the culture that is the problem and that is the hardest thing to change.”


Joanne Allsopp, one of the youngest HR directors in business

“Working women want two things – high quality childcare and an interesting career,” says Karren. The old macho office culture is not for her. “It’s the culture of long office hours and a clock watching mentality that makes it difficult for women. It’s the culture that is the problem and that is the hardest thing to change.

“Flexible working is the key for women to be able to have a successful career – new technology makes it easier than ever. But you must change the culture otherwise it won’t work.

“I don’t give a hoot about how many hours people are in the office so long as the job gets done. It’s not about being seen in the office and being the last person to go home. Getting the job done is what it’s about and women are very good at ensuring flexible working actually works.”

As MD Karren sees the big picture but also realises that making it work is often in the detail and helping with the practicalities of life.

“If for example somebody is looking for a nanny and doesn’t have the time to go through a long list of potential candidates I’ll ask the HR director to whittle it down to the best three or four candidates if that is helpful. I’ll do that for anyone at the club – staff top to bottom.”

And it works because everyone knows and trusts the woman running the HR department”, says Karren, who spotted the talents of Joanne Allsopp when she came to the club as a junior administrator at just sixteen. She’s now one of the youngest HR directors in business.


“If for example somebody is looking for a nanny and doesn’t have the time to go through a long list of potential candidates I’ll ask the HR director to whittle it down to the best three or four candidates if that is helpful. I’ll do that for anyone at the club – staff top to bottom.”


Brady was about to move on last season and seek new challenges when she found herself embroiled in a police enquiry in accounting at the club, after a takeover deal fell through. She’s waiting for the enquiry to finish and confident she’ll emerge untarnished “because I haven’t done anything.”

So, what next? Her husband former Blues player Paul Peschisolido is keen to move back to his native Canada, and their two children are enthusiastic. But she’s fending them off.

“No, I don’t think that would suit me. You’ll have to wait and see. She’s enjoying being a judge on the highly popular BBC television programme, The Apprentice with her old friend the businessman Sir Alan Sugar, and keen to get Birmingham City back on an even keel. “I think every woman has a responsibility to other women in business to help and encourage them in their career. Whatever I do that won’t change.”


About the author

Annie Burns is a journalist with an extensive background in news and current affairs. In the 1980s and 1990s she worked at Thames Television as a producer and director of the then ground breaking current affairs programme, This Week. Later she became the senior producer responsible for original news slots of 5-6 minutes on ITN’s News at Ten, the major news broadcast for the nation. Moving to the BBC she edited the edgy right-to-reply programme, Biteback with fellow journalist, Sue Lawley. She also edited Law in Action on BBC radio and produced documentaries for BBC Radio 4 and 5. Burns grew up in Walsall near Birmingham and naturally supported her local side, Walsall FC.

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Karren Brady, MD, Birmingham City Football Club

“Women are different and they bring something different to the table than men – their qualities are distinct and valuable in making a business successful. They are not political animals in the same way as men. They don’t play politics at work so you don’t have to watch your back all the time. Women are quite open and collaborative, much more so than men.”